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admittedly it was many years ago when I last saw him, but it seemed to me he best enjoyed golf post-game, getting ridiculously inebriated

Personally, I don’t see the use of the cabinet seeing as the PSes do all the work…

Interesting to note that the day Kibaki sacked his folks, we got a new gov. here in Germany. First thing I’ll do is to write a letter to our new female chancellor, telling her to improve her handicap on the course so she can pull in some advice from Mwai.

Nothing much different expect even more politiking (plus the public coffers are getting a bit of a break for a few days)…as M says, it’s the PS’s who do most of the work anyway . Not sure if Merkel wants to be seeking advice from Kibaki, especially since she has an unwieldy coalition to manage…

I’m wondering if we need to focus not simply on the “big” issues, government, ministers, the constitution, but also on some really intense grassroots activism, way before 2007.

We do…unfortunately, the people who should be at the forefront of this in Kenya, civil society, are still in post-2002 elections shock….very effective in organizing against Moi’s dictatorship, but been asleep since then.

The teacher in me keeps imagining a project that combines intense lobbying with mps and local leaders, and pressure put on such leaders from constituents. (Lost my topic sentence.)

The teacher part: devise a simple survey that has three questions: what did x mp promise? what has x mp accomplished for you? rate x mp out of 10.

Perhaps impractical, but something similar *might* put pressure on politicians to stop bickering while, at the same time, recognize successful local strategies, hopefully as paradigms for other areas.

Actually quite practical…M (Thinker) had proposed something along the same lines…every voter should be forced to give three reasons why they are voting for a particular MP before they vote…that is unlikely to happen, but I think your idea of getting people to start questioning just what “public servants” are doing is something that is much needed.

Not sure how exactly I was sugarcoating the defeat. The fact is this is the first time that he is acted decisively in a long time. Rumor has it that the man has not been known to have fired anyone in his life.

Now you people want to pretend the old man is going to be some kind of saviuor for the nation. This is hogwash.

Again, not sure how you came to this conclusion.

Also I think we should take a break from the high chair of lecturing the ODM about what their mandate is. Political power and the struggle for a new constitution are not mutually exclusive.

The ODM came together on the basis of killing the Wako draft…people voted on this basis and many other things but this was NOT an election. No high chair here either, I’m a concerned Kenyan citizen.

The elites who were pouring scorn and redicule on the ODM and the masses whom they always think are stupid are the least qualified to come now to lecture us on what to do. As Kenyans we welcome your contributions, but spare us the condenscending attitude.

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I agree with you the ODM is too male dominated and they have to be confronted with that.

Finally something we both agree on. What’s been their response so far?

Here is what I think about the new ” awaken Kibaki”

http://jukwaa.proboards58.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1132773399

Good read!